ÆTHELMEARC COLLEGE OF HERALDS - commentary archive
Letter of Intent #105
Aryanhwy merch Catmael

Greetings!  Here are my comments on the May LoI - rather spotty, but
June was incredibly busy.

2. Aíbell Shuluaine - This is a "change of name", not a "request
for reconsideration", since the changes made to her previous submission
were a result of registerability requirements, not authenticity
requirments. As this is a change of name, appropriate fees will need
to be paid to Laurel.

3. Aurèlio di Baldasare - The accent should be removed from the given
name:

"Artemisia di Serena. Name. Submitted as Artemisia Seréna, the submitter
requested authenticity for 16th C Italian and allowed any changes. The
accent marks in De Felice are for pronunciation only. Therefore, we have
removed the accent from the byname." [LoAR 02/2002]

Don't forget to give URLs for all web pages cited.

4. Clemente de Warrewyk - Excellent name and excellent arms! I found
no conflicts with either.

5. Clewin Kupferhelbelinc - The arms are clear of Margaret Catteshull of
Meriden (reg. 11/2001 via Atlantia), "Per bend gules and azure, a bend Or
between a cat sejant guardant dexter forepaw raised and two needles crossed
in saltire argent," with a CD for the type, a CD for the number, and a CD
for the tincture of the secondaries. Vs. Urcy Ravensholme (reg. 03/1990
via Ansteorra), "Per bend gules and sable, a bend between a goblet Or and
a goblet argent," there's a CD for the field and one for changing half
the tincture of the secondaries. These are the closest I found.

6. Collette de Paris - More nice arms! I found no conflicts.

7. Eilonwydd ferch Llewellyn Sutor à Gwynydd - Names in Gruffudd which
are not dated are modern, so they will be not useful here for
supporting this construction. Additionally, while plenty of evidence for
<Eil-> as a deuterotheme in both masculine and feminine Welsh names was
provided, I see no support for the prototheme <-onwydd> in any of the
names on the LoI. The closest registerable form I see in the docs on the
LoI is <Eiliwedd> from Tangwystyl's CA #66.

<ferch> is the Modern Welsh form of the word. In the 13th century, it
was spelled <verch>. To partially comply with her request for authenticity,
<ferch> should be changed to <verch>. Likewise the patronym should be
corrected to one of the documented 13th C forms.

<à> is not the correct preposition for 'of'; this is a modern French
preposition and wholly out of place in a Welsh locative byname. This
should be either <Gwynydd> or <de Gwynydd>.

The presence of the bordure which has poor contrast with half the field
is sufficient to remove the possiblity of presumption.

10. Fredeburg von Katzenellenbogen - Vs. Styrkárr Bjarnarson (reg. 09/
2002 via An Tir), "Or, a yale rampant guardant vert bezanty armed gules,"
there's a CD for the field and one for the orientation of the yale.
This is the closest I found.

11. Gabriel Hawkes - This spelling of the byname can be found in my
"Index of Names in the 1541 Subsidy Roll of London"
(http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/english/london1541.html) and in
my "Names found in Minchinhampton, Glouchestershire Marriage Registers
1566-1600" (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/english/minchinhampton.html),
where it is dated to 1567, 1578, and 1600. I found no conflicts with
the name.

12. Godke de Grote - My article also has <Grotejohan> 1448 (s.n. Hans).
So this looks to be a lovely 15th C Low German name.

13. Grímr Kveld-Úlfr - <Kveld-Úlfr> is not in fact a byname, but a
prepended byname <Kveld-> plus a given name <Úlfr>. The name <Kveld-Úlfr>
is unique, and not registerable:

"Kveldulfr av Ulfsgaard. Name. As Vesper notes, "Kveld-Ulfr" may well be a
unique name like "Skalla-Grimr": the adjective "kveld" was added to the
given name "Ulfr" for the grandfather of Egil Skallagrimsson, a famous
berserker. He was apparently given the name because he only came alive in
the evenings and possibly because he was considered b [sic] some to be a
werewolf in actuality. (Some superstitious folk considered that the
berserkers actually became their totemic animals in the heat of battle and
Geirr Bassi lists "Kveld-Ulfr" only in his section on bynames, giving that
meaning (p. 24)." [LoAR 10/1988]

14. Hauoc the Wild - The submitter should be advised to draw the bordure
about twice as thick. This conflicts with Athelwulf the Ancient of the
Dry Lands (reg. 01/1985 via Atenveldt), "Gules, a duck displayed, head
affronty, within a bordure Or," with a CD for the field, but none for
the type of bird. This also conflicts with Adenwald the Hazardous (reg.
04/1991 via Atlantia), "Per chevron azure and plumetty azure and argent,
a hawk displayed, wings inverted, all within a bordure Or," with a CD
for the field.

15. Helewys Spynnere - Lovely arms! I found no conflicts.

17. Leiðólfr Grimr - If <Grimr> is being used as a descriptive
byname, it needs to be in the lower case. Also, since the accent
is being used in the given name, it needs to be restored to the
byname.

18. Margretha la Fauvelle - No conflicts found with the arms.

This spelling of the given name also occurs once in my "German
Names from Kulmbach, 1495"
(http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/kulmbach1495.html).

19. Marianna Molin di Salerno - Charged ship sails are treated
as displays of independent arms and so need to be conflict checked
separately:

"Eiríkr Mj{o,}ksiglandi Sigurðarson. Badge. (Fieldless) A drakkar
under sail gules its sail charged with a phoenix Or.
This submission raised the question about whether it was possible
to charge the sail of a ship in SCA armory. The submitter quoted
extensive past precedent which indicated that charged sails on ships
in period heraldry appeared to be displays of independent coats of
arms. The precedents then stated that a charged sail, as a display
of an independent coat of arms, appeared to be an inescutcheon of
pretense, and thus was not registerable under the rules for that
forbid use of inescutcheons of pretense (now RfS XI.4). The submitter
indicates that, due to the most recent change to RfS XI.4, a charged
sail would no longer appear to be an inescutcheon of pretense and
should thus be acceptable.
The submitter is correct that under the current version of RfS XI.4,
a charged sail would not appear to be an inescutcheon of pretense.
However, this does not negate the research in the previous precedents
(and supported by the College of Arms when they commented on this
submission) which showed that charged sails appear to be independent
displays of armory.
Because a charged sail appears to be an independent display of
armory, it should be treated analogously to other armorial elements which
might appear to include an independent display of armory. The most
obvious analogous case is that of a flag or banner used as an armorial
element. Precedent states: "Charged banners [even if only maintained]
are checked for conflict against already registered armory" (LoAR May
1999, p. 12). Therefore, it seems appropriate to rule that a charged
sail must be checked for conflict against already registered armory.
The armory on this sail appears to be Gules, a phoenix Or. This
conflicts with Colin Tyndall de ffrayser, Gules, a phoenix within a
double tressure Or, with one CD for removing the double tressure." [LoAR
06/2003]

The arms here are "Gules, a martlet volant to sinister Or". They
therefore may conflict with Amron the Stygian (reg. 10/1976), "Sable,
a hawk volant to sinister, wings aventred, Or." There is a CD for the
field tincture. I don't know whether there is one between a martlet
volant and a hawk volant, or what "aventred" is or whether there'd be a
CD for that. Another potential conflict is Constantinople, Emperor of
(reg. 12/1994 via Laurel), "Gules, a double-headed eagle Or". There is
probably a CD between an eagle displayed and a martlet volant, but
volant is not listed as a period posture for martlets at
http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2003/11/03-11brd.html, so I don't know
whether there is the required X.2 difference between the two types of
birds.

And the martlets are "volant TO sinister", or "volant contourny", not
"volant sinister".

26. William Parris - Nice name! I found no conflicts.

-Aryanhwy merch Catmael,
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