ÆTHELMEARC COLLEGE OF HERALDS - commentary archive
Letter of Intent #106
Aryanhwy merch Catmael

1: Aurelio di Baldasare - No conflicts found.

2: Corbinus de Cuvae - No conflicts found.

4: Garrett Williamson - No conflicts found.

5: Gille MacDhonuill - No conflicts found.

6: Gille MacDhonuill - No conflicts found.

7: Hildegardis quae et Berthegund - This is manifestly not a pile indented. This is "Per chevron inverted indented sable and checky Or and sable", and suffers from the same problems mentioned in this precedent:

"[Per pale embattled barry sable and Or and vert, drawn with each bar fitting exactly into each segment of the embattling ] "The matching up of the bars with the embattlements of the per pale line is so unusual as to be disconcerting. Please inform the submitter that it is unlikely that someone else drawing this device from the blazon would match them quite so precisely." [The device was passed] (LoAR 1/92 p.5)."

The alignment of the checks with the indentations of the line of division severely hamper the identifiability of both, especiallysince the checky field shares a tincture with the other half.

A minor blazon note: The only tincture which should be capitalized is 'Or'.

The arms conflict with Elizabeth Braidwood (reg. 11/1998 via An Tir), "(Fieldless) A bee Or," with one CD for the field but none for the placement of the bee.

The name is fine with a minor change. <Berthegund> needs to be Latinized, so that the phrase <quae et [name]> is all in one language. Judging from the 9th C latinizations cited from report #2397, <Berthegundis> is a plausible Latinized form.

Ahah, even better. Morlet (I:55a) has <Bertgundis> a. 742 and the not explicitly dated <Berthegundis> from the _Hist. Fr._ p. 384 and <Bertegundis> from _Pol. Irm._ XXI, 81. (I'm not sure what the dates on these sources are). So we can be sure that <Berthegundis> is a correct Latinized form.

9: Marian of Blackwood - No conflicts found with the name. An authentic 16th C English name would use <Blackwood> as an inherited surname, e.g. <Marian Blackwood>. However, dropping <of> is a major change, which she doesn't allow.

No conflicts found with the arms. Fewer and larger trefoils would make them easier to distinguish from ermine spots.

10: Marija Kotok - Why was her previous badge returned?

This conflicts with Kareina Talvi Tytar (reg. 07/1986 via the West), "Azure, vetû, a long-haired domestic cat dormant argent," with a CD for the field, but none for the type of cat or for the posture. It also conflicts with Ellen of Caer Seiont (reg. 07/1983 via An Tir), "Pean, a domestic cat dormant guardant argent," again with just a CD for the field. Another conflict is James Winter of White Forest (reg. 04/1989 via Calontir), "Per fess sable and ermine, in chief a lion dormant argent," with just a CD for the field. And the last conflict I found: Trude Lacklandia (reg. 01/1980 via Atenveldt), "Sable, a domestic cat couchant guardant chased argent."

11: Sionn, the Lost - I find no evidence for <Sionn> as a period name in any culture. <Sion> can be documented as a Welsh masculine name, but changing the language of a name is a major change, which he does not allow. S. Gabriel Report 2068 (http://www.s-gabriel.org/2068) says:

"<Sion> is a modern Welsh spelling of a Welsh adaptation of the English name
<John>. The earliest example we've found of this spelling is from 1627,
and the earliest evidence we've found of a Welsh name pronounced this way
is from the late 15th century [1]. Therefore, this particular name is
probably not appropriate for your period."

The footnote is Morgan & Morgan p. 136. <Sion the Lost>, combining Welsh and English, would be registerable with just a weirdness for the SCA-compatible byname. Perhaps the submitter can be contacted to see if this change is amenable to him?

About the documentation for the arms, I agree that only that which shows the form which is submitted would need to be included. The other information is interesting, but doesn't help towards supporting the registration. However, the lack of documentation for punctuation in armory is probably a death-knell for this current submission.

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