Unto Garnet Herald and the Aethelmearc College of Arms;
Greetings from the Heronter Heralds.
Herein, our commentary on AE ILoI #109
1: AEthelmearc, Kingdom of - New Order Name & New Badge
Name: Order of the Golden Stirrup
Rant from Dagonell: "and most examples were the color gold" To my mind,
that's a problem, _everybody_ chooses gold or silver. Everybody thinks
that if they choose the color of a valuable metal, that the value of
the metal will somehow be imparted onto the order, so we end up with
Golden Alces, Silver Buccles, Golden Quills, Silver Beavers, etc. and
no one can remember which is what without consulting a herald. On the
other hand, what does "The Green Beret" get confused with? See my point?
Badge: "(Fieldless) A stirrup Or."
Aryanhwy merch Catmael brought up the issue of trian aspect in her
letter. Parker's Glossary of Heraldry (pg. 554, sn. Stirrup) clearly
shows stirrups in a non-trian aspect. On the other hand, the submitted
emblazon is almost a direct copy of the illustration in Pic-Dic, sans
leather strap.
Possible conflict:
Name: James Ericsson
Date: June 1991
Kingdom: West
Type: Badge
Blazon: (Fieldless) A stirrup Or, leathered azure.
Aryanhwy posted an emblazon of James' badge at:
http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/temp/james-badge.jpg
The leather strap appears to be about a third of the charge, which is
less than half, hence negligible. We believe that the two badges are
virtually identical.
2: AEthelmearc, Kingdom of - New Badge
"Sable, a scroll unrolled bendwise argent, overall a sword bendwise sinister
and a rapier bendwise crossed in saltire Or."
This submission is to be associated with AEthelmearc Minister of the Lists
This is an almost literal violation of the sword and dagger rule.
It's also "resume heraldry", which, while not sufficient for a return,
is usually considered poor style.
"Scrolls are unrolled by default" -- Aryanhwy.
We respectfully disagree. PicDic states: "A scroll may be either
'closed' (rolled) or 'open' (partially unrolled). As neither type
is default, the type should be explicitly blazoned; open scrolls are
more common in the SCA."
Possible conflict:
Name: Society for Creative Anachronism, Earl Marshal of
Date: January 1973
Kingdom: Society
Type: Badge
Blazon: Sable, two swords in saltire Or.
(1 CVD for addition of scroll)
3: A¡bell ingen Chernach in - New Device
"Argent, a dragon displayed maintaining a chalice and a needle
threaded and on a chief triangular sable a decrescent argent."
We agree with Aryanhwy, Robert FitzAlwyn's device
(http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/temp/robert-device.jpg)
"Argent, a dragon sejant affronty, wings elevated and displayed, on a
chief triangular sable a broad arrow gules, enflamed Or." is a conflict,
one difference for change to tertiary.
4: Benedict Fergus atte Mede - New Device
"Per pale vert and sable, a salamander argent flamed proper
and on a chief embattled argent three mullets of seven points azure."
No conflicts found, but we count four/six colors (green, black, white,
[red, yellow,] and blue); three charges (salmander, chief, and mullets [not
counting flames]); and a complex line of partition. This is really pushing
the complexity limits.
5: Boris Dragons Bane - New Device Change
"Gules, in pale a chevron enhanced and a griffin passant
between three sets of two axes crossed in saltire."
Blazon-fu: "... between three pairs of axes ..." No conflicts found.
6: Brandr h£slangr - New Device
"Azure, on a bend argent a rose gules barbed, stemmed and leaved vert."
Possible conflict:
We agree with Aryanhwy's call on Andrea de Champs de Batailles,
"Azure, on a bend argent a unicorn's head palewise couped sable
between two cinquefoils purpure." is a conflict, one difference for
change to tertiary.
Clear of:
Name: Ana Ilevna
Date: November 1994
Kingdom: West
Type: Device
Blazon: Azure, on a bend between two seahorses argent, a seahorse palewise azure.
(1 CVD for secondaries, 1 CVD for change of tertiaries)
Name: Marguerite of Kenneydell
Date: August 1993
Kingdom: An Tir
Type: Device
Blazon: Azure, on a bend between two daisies argent, two daisies azure.
(1 CVD for secondaries, 1 CVD for change of tertiaries)
Name: Scrope
Date: December 1994
Kingdom: Laurel
Type: Device
Blazon: Azure, a bend Or.
Comments: (Important non-SCA arms)
(1 CVD for bend tincture, 1 CVD for addition of tertiary)
7: Bridget Cordelia of Beau Fleuve - New Name & New Device
"Per pale sable and argent, three fleurs-de-lys counterchanged."
Clear of:
Name: Mina de Lis
Date: July 1991
Kingdom: West
Type: Device
Blazon: Per chevron Or and purpure, three fleur-de-lys counterchanged.
(1 CVD for field, 1 CVD for charge tincture)
Name: Morgan Etienne ap Gwalchmai Gwynedd
Date: August 1992
Kingdom: Atenveldt
Type: Device
Blazon: Per pale sable and argent, a dragon passant to sinister, tail nowed,
between three fleurs-de-lis counterchanged.
(Clear by complete difference of primary charge)
Name: Nuala nfc Ailfn
Date: February 2005
Kingdom: Caid
Type: Device
Blazon: Per pale argent and sable, two fleurs-de-lys counterchanged.
(1 CVD for field, 1 CVD for number (1 CVD for charge tincture?))
Name: Siber Throckmorton O'Ciaragain
Date: December 1994
Kingdom: Meridies
Type: Device
Blazon: Per pale sable and argent, a unicorn rampant contourny between three
fleur-de-lys counterchanged.
(Clear by complete difference of primary charge)
9: Erlendr raudhrafn - New Name & New Device
Not sure that it's really a problem, but all the examples of "rauth-"
combinations are items that are sometimes red (cloaks, cheeks, foxes, beards,...
even wolves and bears). We've never run into or heard tell of a red raven in
nature.
"Per pale indented argent and gules, a raven maintaining a tankard counterchanged.
Clear of:
Name: Mathilda die Knochenrichterin
Date: March 1997
Kingdom: West
Type: Device
Blazon: Per pale argent and sable, a raven close counterchanged.
(1 CVD for field, 1 CVD for charge tincture, 1 CVD for line of partition)
10: Finnr jafnkollr - New Name & New Device
"Gules, a merlin striking wings elevated and addorsed sustaining an axe bendwise Or.
Possible conflict:
Name: Owain of Corn Valley
Date: January 2001
Kingdom: An Tir
Type: Device
Blazon: Gules, a peregrine falcon rising wings displayed Or maintaining in both
talons a halberd bendwise sable.
(0 CD for wing position, 0 CD for bird type, 0 CD for weapon type,
1 CD for half of weapon tincture)
(The axe is patterned with so much black line, we call it "Or, hafted sable")
Clear of:
Name: Angus Turloc McClellan
Date: November 1990
Kingdom: Caid
Type: Device
Blazon: Gules masoned argent, an eagle volant to dexter base Or.
(1 CVD for masoning, 1 CVD for axe, 1 CVD for position)
Name: Olof Gudmundsson
Date: August 1994
Kingdom: West
Type: Device
Blazon: Gules, an eagle striking between three mullets Or.
(1 CVD for addition of co-primary, 1 CVD for removal of secondaries)
Name: Sasha Dmitrievich Dozortsev
Date: December 1994
Kingdom: Caid
Type: Device
Blazon: Gules, an osprey striking between in chief two crescents Or.
(1 CVD for addition of co-primary, 1 CVD for removal of secondaries)
11: Gr¡mkell bogsveigir - New Name & New Device
"Per chevron sable and Or, an arrow fesswise point to sinister Or
and a hammer sable."
Clear of:
Name: Avelina Perceval
Date: August 1993
Kingdom: East
Type: Device
Blazon: Per chevron vert and Or, in base a smith's hammer sable hafted of
wood proper.
(1 CVD for field, 1 CVD for arrow)
Name: D=marr Osegod
Date: November 1995
Kingdom: Middle
Type: Device
Blazon: Per chevron rayonny gules and argent, in base a Thor's hammer sable.
(1 CVD for field, 1 CVD for arrow)
14: Maghnus an Chnoic na n'Iora - New Badge
"Azure, in pale a chevron couped and a single-headed chess knight argent."
Clear of:
Name: Aelesia Emelyne Couchur
Date: April 1999
Kingdom: Meridies
Type: Device
Blazon: Azure, a chevron embattled argent.
(1 CVD for partition, 1 CVD for secondary)
15: Meadhbh of Clan McBain of Harlaw - New Name & New Device
"Vert, a griffin segreant within a bordure dovetailed Or."
Possible conflicts:
Name: Ysabeau Anais Roussot du Lioncourt
Date: March 1989
Kingdom: Caid
Type: Device
Blazon: Per pale gules and pean, a wingless griffin rampant, incensed and
queue-fourchy, within a bordure embattled Or.
(1 CVD for field, 0 or 1 CVD for wings???)
Name: Ursula von Liste
Date: May 1984
Kingdom: Middle
Type: Device
Blazon: Azure, ermined argent, a gryphon segreant queue-forchee within a bordure
embattled Or.
(1 CVD for field, 1 CVD for semy (?))
Clear of:
Name: Alana Griffin
Date: August 2002
Kingdom: AEthelmearc
Type: Device
Blazon: Sable, a griffin segreant Or winged argent maintaining an acorn Or.
(1 CVD for field, 1 CVD for bordure)
Name: Gwalchwyn ap Gryffyn
Date: December 1995
Kingdom: An Tir
Type: Device
Blazon: Per bend sinister azure and vert, a griffin segreant to sinister
reguardant within a bordure embattled Or.
(1 CVD for field, 1 CVD for position reversal)
Name: John ap Griffin
Date: May 1970
Kingdom: Not listed
Type: Device
Blazon: Vert, a griffin segreant to sinister Or.
(1 CVD for field, 1 CVD for position reversal, 1 CVD for bordure)
Name: Nicolette de Coulours
Date: August 1999
Kingdom: Lochac
Type: Device
Blazon: Quarterly purpure and vert, a hippogriff segreant Or.
(1 CVD for field, 1 CVD for bordure)
16: Onnen Greg - New Name
We would suggest the addition of a patronymic. If this is
considered as a single name, she would need a second element.
If it is considered as given name plus byname, is she not in conflict
with the historical individual from which the name is documented?
In service,
Catalina de Luna
Jacob of Dunmoore
Leonor Farfan
Bjorn Einarsson
Cigfran Heronter
Dagonell Whitehorn
Harold the Herald
