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Letter of Intent #111
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Here are my comments on ILoI #111.

1: Abhain ri Naimh - Apart from any question of the plausibility of
the construction, the name lacks the required designator. Adding one
would be a major change, which they do not allow. And was a petition
of support provided?

2: Barak Elandris Bear the Walsbane - The blazon needs to indicate
what the augmentation is: "and _for augmentation_ in chief a demi-
escarbuncle argent."

The emblazon here does not match the emblazon of his currently
registered arms (which can be seen at
http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/temp/barak.jpg). The line of division
here is not "per chevron inverted grady" but "per chevron inverted
grady debased", and the placement of the pawprint has changed
significantly. His current arms are such that there isn't any space
in chief to put another charge. If he wants this new design, then
it's pretty clearly a device change in addition to the addition of
the augmentation, and these must be handled as separate items.

3: Beatrix Krieger - One of the most common typos: The header has
<Krieger>, but the documentation <Kreiger>. Which is correct? If the
form in the header is, I note S. Gabriel Report #2714
(http://www.s-gabriel.org/2714), which says:

"We find <Krieger> recorded as a byname in a
couple of different examples: <Joh. Criec> or <Chrieger> in 1260, as
well as <Gerlachus dictus Krigere> in 1312, whose byname was also
spelled <Krieger>. [2,3]"

The citations are Bahlow s.n. Krieger and Brechenmacher s.n.
Krieger. <Beatrix> can also be found in German; there are examples
in my "German Names from 1495"
http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/german1495.html and my
"German Names from Kulmbach, 1495"
http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/kulmbach1495.html

Fesswise is the default for long skinny charges on a chief, so that
can be omitted from the blazon. No conflicts found.

4: Brandr húslangr - The rest of the blazon is missing..."cotised
Or, a rose gules, barbed, slipped, and leaved vert". This no
longer conflicts with Andrea, with a CD for the changes to the
tertiaries and another for adding the secondaries, and is does not
conflict with Mary, with one CD for the type and one for the
number of secondaries. There are so many arms which have two CDs,
one for the type of secondaries and another for the changes to the
tertiaries, that I'm not going to list them all. The closest I
found is James Courthope (reg. 10/2004 via the East), "Sable, on a
bend argent cotised Or three cinquefoils sable," with a CD for
the field and one for the tincture and number of the tertiaries.
And vs. Fiachra ni Ciardhubháin (reg. 05/1996 via the Outlands),
"Azure, on a bend between two crosses fleury Or three roses proper,"
this is clear with one CD for the type of secondaries and another
for the tincture of the bend.

What's the status of his name?

5: Briana de Mandoza - Eagles are displayed by default, so this
needn't be included in the blazon. I don't see anything which
makes these tree specifically cedar trees rather than generic
pine trees (and in fact I had difficulty identifying them as trees
at all). No conflicts found with the arms.

The header has <Mandoza>, but the documentation <Mendoza>. Which is
correct? No conflicts found, either way.

6: Catalina de Luna - This is clear of <Catalina Riquel de Luna> reg.
04/2007 via Atlantia by removal of the element <Riquel>. I also found
no conflicts with the arms.

8: Daiwyn ap Cadwaladwe - Is <Cadwaladwe> a typo? If so, what for?
There shouldn't be any problem with dropping <ap>; Tangwystyl's
CA #66 "A Welsh Miscellany" discusses the use of unmarked patronyms
in later-period Welsh. (Note that while the name lists in this
source are no longer considered reliable, the precedent ruling them
such specifically say: "We note that the information about name
formation is still acceptable as sole documentation for naming patterns."
[CL 04/2007]).

The fleurs are "two and one", not "in chevron inverted". No conflicts
found with the arms.

9: Elizabeth Thorne - Amazingly, I found no conflicts.

10: Gabriel de Wenslagh - No conflicts found with the name or arms.

12: Giovanni da Monza - Nice (if a bit dizzying) arms! Gyronny is
of eight by default, so that can be dropped from the blazon. No
conflicts found with the name or arms.

13: Griffin le Grey - Additionally, R&W s.n. Griffin have <Grifin>
1066, <Griffin filius Gurgan> 1130, <Robert Grifin> 1148, and <Osbertus
filius Griffini> 1153-68. No conflicts found.

The arms are close to Julia of Sheffield (reg. 04/1996 via the West),
"Argent goutty, on a chevron azure between three ships sails set sable
three escallops Or," but there's on CD for removing the gouttes and
another for the tincture of the ships. This is the closest I found.

14: Grímólfr berserkr - No conflicts found with the name or arms.
Typo in the blazon: "wolf's heads".

16: Nishimura Saburou - No conflicts found.

17: Petr Kotok - This precedent may be an issue:

"Dafydd Ó Nuallain. Badge. Or, in pale a fleam inverted and a roundel
vert within a bordure rayonne azure. This is returned for several
reasons...Finally, the combination of the fleam inverted and the
roundel creates the appearance of a single charge — a question mark
— instead of two separate charges." [LoAR 11/1999]

And more recently:

"[Per pale argent and sable, in pale a sickle and roundel
counterchanged.] This device must be returned, as by long standing
precedent, a single abstract symbol may not be registered. As
previously noted, "[in pale a fleam inverted and a roundel] ... the
combination of the fleam inverted and the roundel creates the
appearance of a single charge -- a question mark -- instead of two
separate charges. [Dafydd Ó Nuallain, 11/99, R-East]." On resubmission
the submitter should show evidence that the use of punctuation marks -
or a combination of charges that appears to be a punctuation mark - is
compatible with period heraldic practice." [Elijah Tynker, 12/05,
R-Outlands]

While all of the "question marks" here share the same dot, and the
dot is significantly larger than each sickle, the overall design still
bothers me.

18: Willehalm Stürmer - Given his request for authenticity, I would
recommend changing the name to <Willehalm Sturmere>, which places
both elements in the 13th C and within 14 years of each other.

19: Æthelmearc, Kingdom of - So long as the actual forms have a more
true gules than the scanned version (which looks rather like
salmon pink to me, halfway between gules and leather), I see no
problems. This should be clear of James's badge with one CD for
changing half the tincture.

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