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Letter of Intent #127
Kathryn MacLuing

Again, I am trying my hand at Commentary, which I'm using as a learning exercise.  Some of my commentary will be questions for those better versed in Heraldry -- please explain what I'm missing, so I can not make the same mistakes.  I am NOT knowledgeable about naming practices, except for what I did to help out a submitter.  Thus I leave the names for those with the knowledge to make skilled commentary. 

Please send commentary on my commentary directly to my email.  I can't learn if I don't know what I'm doing wrong. :)
This will be a long post.

1:  Transferring the Pursuivant names to their Baronies is a great idea.  I need to talk to the Baron/ess of Blackstone and get the Onyx Pursuivant transferred. 

2: My only comment is I believe Lorraine is a region in France, so I can accept 'de Lorraine' as a family name.

3 - 5:  A quick search of the O&A shows that her Badge has no close matches, so there is still no conflict with it, but I do want to ask if a Badge has been promoted this way before.  I've never heard of someone doing this before.

6:  Doing a basic Armory search, I find the following:
# Caitriona ni Dhubhghaill
      Argent, a demi-horse rampant sable, on a chief wavy purpure, three triskelions pommety Or.
1CD for the demi-horse, and I'd say 2 for the triskelions for shape and color.

7:  Isn't this a military symbol?  Wasn't something like this on WWII airplanes for America or Britain?

8:  My only complaint about this badge is the possibility for the apples to be confused with plates or other round objects.  This would be especially problematic when the badge is shrunken, say to be worn on a favor.

9:  Again, I will leave names to those with more knowledge.

10:  I never realized how many badges had butterflies on them.  Is there a default posture for butterflies? 
Either way, I found the following:
# Viviana Eucheria l'Indòmabile
      Argent, a butterfly and a bordure sable.
No CD for the Field, 1 for the butterfly's color, 1 for position (assuming displayed), and 1 for the bordure.

# Alexandra of Clan Donald
      Argent, a butterfly azure and a bordure wavy azure semy of butterflies argent.
None for the field, 1 for position (assuming Displayed), 1 for the bordure.

# Alysande of Greenvale
      Argent, a butterfly displayed purpure within an orle of butterflies vert.
None for the field, 1 for the color, 1 for the position, 1 for the orle of Butterflies.

# Africa O'Brien
      Argent, a butterfly sable and a bordure rayonny vert.
None for the field, 1 for the color, 1 assuming displayed, and 1 for the bordure.

# Heile Kozak
      Or, a butterfly azure within an orle vert.
Whooooooooops!  1 for field, maybe 1 assuming the butterfly is displayed.  It's a close call, with the only color difference being the field tincture.

# Katarina la Juste
      Or, a butterfly within a bordure azure.
1 for the field, 1 assuming displayed butterfly, and 2 for the bordure.


11: There is all kinds of things WRONG with this blazon and emblazon.  If they mean "sejant" instead of "sergeant", the emblazon should have the griffin sitting, not Rampant And "Contourny"?  Wouldn't that mean the griffin's head is facing differently from the body?  It wouldn't be a facing for the whole body, would it?  Just what did the Submitter want here -- as blazoned or as emblazoned? 

Going by the Emblazon, we have the following:
# Brandon D'Arindel
      Sable, a male griffin rampant argent.
Remind me, is the Male Griffin the spiky one?  If so, that's going to be an extra CD.

Going by the blazon, assuming sergeant = sejant:
# Griffin Porthor
      Sable, a griffin sejant erect contourny and on a chief Or three mullets sable.
I wish I could see the emblazon for this one, so I could see what the griffin looks like.
The chief would be the main CD here.

As for the Eagles' Jambes:
# Uther Siemer
      Sable, an alerion between three eagle's jambes erased a la quise, a bordure embattled Or.
1 for the Alerion, 1 for the bordure.  I'm not sure what a la quise means.

IF we believe the emblazon is what the submitter wishes, the blazon needs to be changed.  My suggestion:  Sable, a griffin rampant between three eagles' jambes Or.


12:  Again, names are things I have yet to study.  However, simply by looking at the device I had to ask myself "What are those two black things on the stems? Spiked balls?  What?"  If the submitter wants to keep the black roses, I suggest more detail be added to show that they ARE roses.  Otherwise, I found nothing that had less than 4CDs to the blazon.

(Addendum:  To my husband I asked "What does that look like to you?"  (long pause from him) "A sword and two... dandelions?")

13: I can find nothing to match this device.  There are at least 4CDs, most of them having the pawprints 'in chief' rather than the animal.

14:  I can find nothing wrong with this device, although if possible I think the thistles need to be bigger.  I mistook them for Laurels on first glance. *blush*

15:  Hmm... there's the following in O&A:
# Ealdnorðwuda, Canton of
    * The following badge associated with this name was registered in March of 2003 (via the Middle):
      (Fieldless) A pine tree gules.
On a badge, is one CD enough?

16:  Is it me, or did anyone else see "Aragon" and think of Tolkien?  *sigh*
THL Ailis brought up the posture of the emblazoned hummingbirds; to me rising would suggest wings up.  I did find the following:
# Carlo Gallucci
      Azure, on a bend Or between two roses argent barbed and seeded proper three roosters palewise vert.
Hopefully we can tell the difference between hummingbirds and roosters.

# Martha Effingham of Stewart Kepe
      Azure, on a bend sinister between two arum lilies bendwise sinister argent slipped three dragonflies vert.
Just to see if you're paying attention ;-)


17: Again, the emblazon needs more detail to make the willow tree look more like a willow tree.  First glance it was just a Rorschach blob to me.  My husband had to take a second glance as well.  I found the following in the O&A:
Middle, Kingdom of the
    * The following badge associated with this name was registered in June of 2005 (via the Middle):
      Purpure, a weeping willow tree eradicated Or.
      for the Order of the Willow
1CD for the willowtree's tincture, but how many for the mullets?

# Morwenna ní Thiarnáin
    * The following device associated with this name was registered in September of 1992 (via Atlantia) and reblazoned in June of 2005 (via Atlantia):
      Purpure, a willow tree eradicated and in chief three decrescents within a bordure embattled grady argent.
    * The following device associated with this name was registered in June of 2005 (via Atlantia):
      Purpure, a weeping willow tree blasted and eradicated and in chief three decrescents within a bordure embattled grady argent.
The reblazon adds up to 3CDs: the tree is now blasted, the decrescents, and the bordure.

18: This is a very good device.  I can find nothing that is within 4CDs.

19: Is there a defunct posture for a Swan?  This looks Rising.  And what is "a swan rousant"?  Is it the same as Rising?  Should the shamrocks be larger?  I know there was a shamrock v/s trefoils discussion on the list recently.

# Helvig Ulfsdotter
      Azure, a duck rising wings elevated and addorsed and on a chief argent three shamrocks vert.
Ducks have smaller necks, and the shamrocks are on a chief, so 3CDs

20:  I helped a submitter with an Arabic name, so I learned a little here. I believe Safiyya bint 'Amr is a valid name, in the proper style.  "Safiyya" is the ism, while "bint 'Amr" would be the nasab, or pedigree. 

Looking through the O&A, we have the following, all showing the traditional ism, nasab, and laqab:

# Safiya bint Ahmad ibn Abdullah
    * This name was registered in May of 2009 (via Atenveldt).

Safiya bint Hakim al-Khwarizmi
    * This name was registered in January of 2009 (via Atlantia).

Safiya bint Nasr al-Samiriyya
    * This name was registered in February of 2005 (via Caid).

Safiya bint Suleiman
    * This name was registered in April of 2009 (via Trimaris).

This is an ism, a nisba, then the nasab.  The nisba is a use-name that translates to "the Perfumer/Druggist"
Safiyah al-'Attarah bint 'Abd al-Rahman
    * This name was registered in January of 2005 (via Atlantia).



21: I think someone forgot to color the hand "proper".  It looks Argent.  I checked "hand" and "gauntlet" both, just in case.  I am assuming a "hand in Benediction" and "Hand of Fatima" are distinct postures.  Counting "dexter" and "sinister" I found the following:
# Lachlan of Cromarty
      (Fieldless) A hand proper sustaining two teasels slipped in saltire Or.
1 for the field, 1 assuming the hand is not apaumy or sinister, and at least one for the teasels, assuming I'm not an idiot and confused about what 'sustaining'  means.

# Pádraig Ó Súileabháin
      Gules, a sinister hand Or within a bordure embattled argent.
Assuming the hand is not apaumy, 2CDs

# Geva de Lile
      Azure, on a dexter hand apaumy Or a goutte azure.
1 for the field, 1 for the tincture of the hand, 1 for the dexter (although I think on the field some might not notice right/left handiness), and 1 for the goutte.

22: Again, a great idea for the Baronies to hold the titles of the Pursuivant for their Barony. 

23:  SHould the lozenges with the scorpions be larger?  Either way, this is the closest I found:
# Takeda Tetsuzo
      Sable, two pallets argent, on each in bend a lozenge sable.
1 for the field, 1 for not being wavy, and 1 because the lozenges are ON the pallets.

24:  Again, a name that I have no idea how to comment upon.

--
Lady Kathryn MacLuing, OK
Onyx Pursuivant
Barony of Blackstone Mountain