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Letter of Intent #41
Margaret Makafee, Silver Buccle Herald


Unto Dagonell Collingwood, Garnet Herald for Submissions for the Kingdom of AEthelmearc, and the members of the AEthelmeac College of Heralds to whom these words shall come, Margaret Makafee, Silver Buccle Principal Herald for the Kingdom of AEthelmearc sends commendations and fond greetings.

Good Collegues,

A couple of general notes:
Nicholas A Joslin is the legal name of the pursuivant for the Stronghold formerly known as Orion's Gate. His SCA name is, I believe, Auvere de Vere.

Could you PLEASE include your contact information on the ILoIs? It's very useful to have all the necessary information on the letter; makes it easier for email commentors too, and means that you can still comment if you manage to lose the envelope. Thanks!

Here are my comments on AEthelmearc ILoI A41. All devices have been checked, no conflicts were found unless otherwise noted.


2. Adwen verch Gryffyn

Reblazon "Argent, in pale two crescents gules between flaunches vert".


3. Cerridwen de Skene

While a Welsh and an English name would be not even a wierdness, I'd say this one is more of a problem. If "de Skene" was a Norman name, I'd say this was probably ok. However, Black derives the name from the name of the church on the lands of the owners in Aberdeenshire. In addition, there is no similar byname in Reaney and Wilson, indicating that this is pretty firmly a Scots name. I'd say "two wierdnesses" on this one. However, it might be useful to let Laurel say "two wierdnesses" so it can be defined in precedence.


5. Danyel Clermont de Toulouse

Just to quibble, Withycombe citation should be "Danyell", and is found under Daniel. While this name is just fine, I have serious doubts that it's a feminine name. If the lady doesn't care that she's got a masculine name, then fine, but I hope she realizes it.


6. Duarcan O'Raghailligh

Reblazon "Per fess vert and sable, in chief a cat passant and in base in fess three lozenges argent."


8. Fine ingen Concatha

The 805 citation is for "F{i'}ne". I believe that "ingen Choncatha" is the correct form of the byname, given that "C" lenites (O'Conchobair --> ingen ui Chonchobair, O'Cathail --> ingen Chathail, etc)


9. Lodowick of Gray's Inn

This probably conflicts with Fabrisse ter Brugghe,"Purpure, a spider web and a chief argent". There is probably not a CD for throughout (and it's not clear that Fabrisse isn't throughout), so there's only one for the addition of the tertiary charges. Perhaps Lodowick can get permission to conflict, since Fabrisse registered her's via the East in July 97.


10. Magnus Jager

It was returned for using fimbriated "flames" not "flowers".


11. Marguerite D'Honfleur

Does she really want the "D" capitilized? It should be lowercased, because there are no examples of capital "D," in period French names.

Please drop the "a" before "semy"


12. Sean O'Faolain

Alas for Sean, the author "Sean O'Faolain" has his own listing in the Encyclopedia Britannica. We protect names found in EB; therefore, the names are in conflict.


14. Una nic Daffyd

O'Corrain and Maguire, p 176, list {U'}na as an extremely popular name in medieval Ireland. Una, without the acute accent, is the anglicized form of the name according to Withycombe, p 284, who dates it's use only poetically in English in period.

Daffyd is Welsh for David; it's not appropriate in a Gaelic name (e.g. "nic" is the wrong patronymic form). O'Corrain and Maguire, p 70 give "Dau{i'}d" as an early Irish form. However, it's unclear whether the early form was ever used as a given name, as they give Daibhead as the later Irish form and say that the name and it's variants were common in the later middle ages. My best guess is "{U'}na ingen u{i'} Dhaibheaid" although it's probably not a very good guess (I know that "d" is typically lenited, but am not sure about the genetive form of this one.)


15. Will Langdon of Greymorne

This may, but probably doesn't conflict with Dabhaidh Earmourer the Tiny, "Argent, a double-horned anvil sable, in chief two smith's hammers in chevron proper and a base rayonny sable." There is definately a CD for the number of secondary charges, but it's unclear whether there is a second CD for arrangement/orientation. There is definately none for changing the type of less than 1/2 the secondary charges. I vote pass it but mention the potential on the ELoI.


Having nothing further to say I will cease to bother you until next month. I remain, as always

Margaret Makafee