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Letter of Intent #71
Myfanwy ferch Rhiannon
Feast of St. Deiniol
11 September, AS XXXVIII
Greetings from Myfanwy!
Enclosed pray find commentary on Æ LoI #71. I tried to be both timely and
relatively thorough in conflict-checking, since it was a small letter (and also
to give myself a bit of a breather before the Pennsic submissions LoI comes
out).
I remain your servant and the Society's.
Lady Myfanwy ferch Rhiannon
mka Ruth Morrisson
RMorrisson@aol.com
myfanwy@nauticom.net
1. Alicia Hennenberg
Withycombe (pp. 17-18, s. n. Alice) gives "Alicia" as the latinized form of
OF "Aliz"/OG "Adalheidis"; the submitted spelling is dated to 1189 in England.
2. Aurenca Mouly (badge resubmission) -- (Fieldless) A horseshoe Or.
This is the default orientation for a horseshoe (c.f. PIC-DIC, s. n.
Horseshoe, and fig. 396).
clear of: Richenda de Braundeston (badge, 4/99 Meridies) -- (Fieldless) A
horseshoe inverted Or, winged argent.
There is a CD for field vs. fieldless, and one for adding the wings to the
charge.. Because, as a fieldless badge, it's going to be a physical thing, I'm
not sure I would give anything for orientation (i.e., default vs. inverted).
clear of: Ambrose Kilvintoun (badge, 2/01 An Tir) -- Vert, a torc
inverted Or between a pair of stag's attires argent.
There is a CD for field vs. fieldless, and one for adding the attires.
(Looking at the depiction of a torc -- c.f. PIC-DIC, fig. 742 -- there might have
to be a visual call between a horseshoe and a torc, everything else being
equal, although there may be a CD.)
clear of: Weyland O'Faoláin (1/90 West) -- Per fess embattled vert and
Or, in chief a torque, opening to chief, Or.
There is a CD for field vs. fieldless, and one for inverting the charge's
orientation.
3. Eumathios Bempetziotes
The name docs for both elements are as given. The same site, however, gives
additional cites for the given name that makes it even more temporally
compatible:
Eumathios Philokales, magistros -- dated to 1070-1090
Eumathios Philokales, megadoux & praitor of Hellas and Peloponnesos --
dated to 1118
Theodoros Bempetziotes -- dated to 1066-1125
BTW -- this is a really cool website!
4. Henry Clarence -- Argent, three unicorns passant azure.
Withycombe (pp. 149-150, s. n. Henry) dates this spelling to the 13th century.
Reaney and Wilson (p. 98, s. n. Clarence) cites Richard Clarence [sic], dated
to 1453.
Nice armory!
clear of: Britha of the Unicorn's Forest (badge, 8/80 Atenveldt) --
Argent a unicorn couchant chased azure.
There are CDs for number and posture.
Just for curiosity, I looked up "chased" in Parker, and was referred,
strangely enough, to the heading for "Thunderbolt" (p. 572), which says: "In one
instance it is only outlined or chased [sic] on the escutcheons." I guess, being
a really old registration, that in Britha's case, the blazon refers to the
charge being voided, in which case there would also be something of a CD for
tincture!
clear of: Cera ingen Taidc (11/01 Caid) -- Argent, in pale three horses
passant azure.
There is a CD between a unicorn and a horse, and one for arrangement of the
charges (i.e., three in pale vs. two and one).
5. James Irvin -- Azure, a sheave [sic] of three swords points to base
Or, bound with a riband argent all within a bordure Or.
The docs for "James" are as given (this spelling is dated to 1500).
Additionally, Withycombe (pp 170-72, s. n. James) dates this spelling to the 13th
century: "James [sic] de Houdernes and James [sic] de Bakepuz, so named in
charters of King John."
The cite for "Irvin" is also as given (dated to 1602). Reaney and Wilson (p.
249) gives "Irvin" as a header form, and cites the forms Simon de Irwyn
[sic], dated to 1296, and Adam Irvine [sic], dated to 1455.
Possible reblazon: Azure, a sheaf of three swords inverted Or, bound with a
riband argent, [all within] a bordure Or.
clear of: Outlands, Kingdom of (badge, 4/89 Outlands) -- Vert, a sheaf of
three swords inverted proper, surmounted by a rose, all within a bordure
embattled Or. [for the Venerable Guard]
There is a CD for changing the field tincture, and one for the complex line
on the bordure. I'm not sure how much I would give for the tincture of the
swords, since they are partly yellow and (presumably) partly covered by a yellow
charge.
possibly not clear of: Marco Pallido di Soncino (badge, 4/89 East) --
Azure, a rapier palewise surmounted by 2 quill pens in saltire Or.
There is a CD for adding the bordure. This will have to be a judgment call
from someone who can take a look at Marco's submission and see how much the
quills really look like a saltire over the rapier, vs. looking like three yellow
objects in a sheaf.
possibly clear of: Rowan Oldway (11/98 West) -- Azure a sheaf of three
stalks of wheat Or, between three crescents argent, a bordure Or.
There is a CD for adding the crescents; there is probably a CD between the
wheat stalks and swords, but, like the previous call, someone should probably do
a visual check.
possibly clear of: Josué Ezequiel Xavier de Navarra (3/85 West) -- Azure
a thunderbolt and a bordure Or.
This is probably a case of X.2, but someone should probably do a visual check
just to be on the safe side.
6. Riversedge, Shire of
7. Wynterset, Stronghold of -- Argent, a winged stag's head erased and
affronty azure surrounded by a laurel wreath vert and on a chief sable three
mullets of eight argent.
This has a complexity count of eight. The blazon is a bit clunky; however,
there are several other problems with the submission, at least one of which
makes it returnable (at least for a redraw). First of all the laurel wreath is
not a standard depiction. The most recent Precedent is from François' tenure
as Laurel (URL: http://home.earthlink.net/~mranc/). In the return of the
submission of Fiodnach Eoghan, Shire of (11/01 Trimaris), it says:
It must also be returned for stylistic reasons. Laurel wreaths must, by
long
standing precedent, be drawn in a circular, or mostly circular shape. V
shaped
[sic] laurel wreathes [sic] are not acceptable.
Additionally, the stag's head is somewhat in trian aspect: it should be drawn
as to be really affronty (i.e, cabossed but with a neck).
Possible reblazon: Argent, a winged stag's head erased affronty azure within
a laurel wreath vert, on a chief sable three mullets of eight points argent.
probably clear of: Yarvid, College of (6/95 Atlantia) -- Argent, a harp
reversed sable within a laurel wreath vert, on a chief sable three goblets
argent.
I think you get X.2 for complete change of primary (i.e., a black harp vs. a
blue winged head); I'm not sure if they've changed the rules yet to make
change of type of tertiary be enough for a CD.
clear of: Hagar the Black (8/79 East) -- Argent, a turtle passant, on a
chief sable three mullets of eight points argent.
I think you get X.2 for complete change of primary (i.e., a black turtle vs.
a blue winged head). There is, in addition, a CD for adding the laurel
wreath.
clear of: Kristofer Olafsson (9/96 Caid) -- Argent a stag's head affronty
erased proper and a chief embattled azure.
8. Wynterset, Stronghold of (badge) -- Sable, upon a mullet of eight
argent a winged stag's head erased and affronty azure.
This emblazon has the same problem as with #7: the head is in trian aspect
(and even more so than on #7). Additionally, the mullet is throughout; do they
intend it to be?
There is no herald of record listed (bad Edmund, no biscuit).
Possible reblazon: Sable, on a mullet of eight points throughout argent, a
winged stag's head erased affronty azure.
I could not find any conflicts.
9. Wynterset, Stronghold of (badge) -- Argent, a stag's head erased and
affronty azure and in base two swords in saltire sable.
This emblazon overcorrects the head position too far to the dexter. It's
*still* trian aspect.
The swords are pretty wussy -- are they supposed to be co-primaries? If so,
then they are WAY too small.
No herald of record listed here either.
I could not find any conflicts.
Bibliography
Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme and Akagawa Yoshio [Kevin Munday and Bruce
Miller]. A Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry, 2nd ed., 1992.
Parker, James. A Glossary of Terms Used in Heraldry. Rutland, VT: Charles
E.
Tuttle Co., 1970.
Reaney, P. H., and R. M. Wilson. A Dictionary of British Surnames, 3rd ed.
Oxford:
Oxford University Press, 1995, 1997.
Withycombe, E. G. The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names, 3rd ed.
Oxford and New York: Oxford University Press; 1977, 1988.
http://oanda.sca.org
URLs and Academy of St. Gabriel letters as cited