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Letter of Intent #82
Myfanwy ferch Rhiannon
All Hallows Eve
31 October, AS XXXIX
Greetings from Myfanwy!
Enclosed pray find commentary on Æ LoI #82. Sorry for it being so
last minute, but I’ve been sick most of the week. I tried to be
relatively thorough on conflict checking in the O&A, and did a skim
through the most recent online LoARs that don’t seem to have been
merged in yet (i.e., the first four months of this year).
I remain your servant and the Society’s.
Lady Myfanwy ferch Rhiannon
mka Ruth Morrisson
myfanwy@nauticom.net
1. Ælfgyfu seo hearpestre (resub) --Azure, a cross raguly argent
between a harp Or and three geese rising wings elevated and addorsed
argent.
On the color emblazon [URL:
http://www.scawebserver.com/~aeherald/Letters/
AE82/aelfgyfu_color.jpg], there are a couple of places missing the
field tincture. I presume that this is merely a computer glitch, and
that the paperwork hard copy is correct.
Is changing a single one of a group of charges around a cross okay?
Is it okay style?
I do not believe that the birds are rising (c.f., Parker, p. 625, in
the article on “Wing”) They look like they are volant, wings elevated
and addorsed; there are nice diagrams of the different bird postures
and wing positions in Eowyn Amberdrake’s article “Heraldry for
Scribes” from an old TI; the article can also be found in section XII
of the West Kingdom Herald’s Handbook [URL:
http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Handbook/index.htm].
Possible reblazon: Azure, a cross raguly argent between a harp Or and
three geese volant wings elevated and addorsed argent.
clear of: Jeanette du Bois (5/80 Ansteorra) -- Per fess azure and
vert, a cross embattled argent between in bend sinister a seagull
volant [Larus marinus], wings elevated and addorsed, proper and a
sea-horse [Synghathidae hippocampus hudsonius] couter-erect [sic]
argent.
There is a CD for changing half the field, and one for changing the
type and number of the secondaries. I’m not sure however, if there is
a CD for the type of partition line on the cross; visually, raguly and
and embattled are somewhat similar.
2. Æthelmearc, Kingdom of (new badge, for the office of Kingdom
Houndmaster/Mistress) -- Or, a pall gules between three dog’s paw
prints sable.
I don’t know if these are dog’s paw prints or not; however, there is
no heraldic difference between types of paw prints.
probably clear of: Baldavin Thorfinnsson (1/91 Ansteorra) -- Or, a
shakefork gules and overall three orcas conjoined in annulo sable,
marked argent.
There is probably a CD for changing a pall to a shakefork; there is at
least one CD for changing the type and orientation/position of the
secondaries.
3. Alaric Parthenay -- Vert, three hearts Or.
The docs for “Alaric” are as given.
Dauzat and Rostaing (p. 519) gives “Parthenay” as a header form; it
appears to date the form Parteniacum [sic] to 1020.
There appears to be a 600 year gap in the name elements.
The hearts are kinda small -- they should fill the space better.
probable conflict: Annabella of Lochwinnoch (1/03 Atlantia) --
Purpure, three hearts Or.
There is a single CD, for change of field tincture.
4. Delftwood, Barony of (new name and badge for Order of the Capstan)
-- (Fieldless) A cog wheel per bend azure and argent.
I have a question about the emblazon (c.f. PIC-DIC, fig. 794) -- does
a cogwheel have an open center? If so, then there’s a problem with
the per bend line going through mid-air.
clear of: Iustinos Tekton (badge, 7/02 Middle) -- (Fieldless) A cog
wheel azure.
There is a CD for fieldless vs. fieldless, and one for changing half
the tincture of the wheel.
clear of: Iathus of Scara (badge, 4/83 Atenveldt) -- Sable, a roundel
embattled voided argent.
There is a CD for field vs. fieldless, and one for changing half the
tincture of the charge. Without actually seeing this, though, I don’t
know whether or not the voiding follows the complex line.
5. Delftwood, Barony of (new name and badge for Order of the
Millguard) -- (Fieldless) a saltire moline gyronny argent and azure.
You know, in color this looks remarkably like one of those Amish hex
signs hung on barns! :-)
Nice badge!
no conflicts found
6. Delftwood, Barony of (new name and badge for Order of the Mistral)
-- (Fieldless) A mistral contourny argent.
This does not particularly appear to be female. It is not all that
different from the “aeolus” as shown in the PIC-DIC [fig. 797], but
I’m not sure how to make it more feminine looking.
clear of: Elvegast, Canton [of?] (badge, 8/79 East) -- (Fieldless)
Two Aeoli with breaths conjoined, argent.
There is a CD for fieldless vs. fieldless, and one for changing the
number of charges (I presume that these are respectant, but it isn’t
clear from the blazon).
clear of Windmasters’ Hill, Barony of (badge, 10/79 East) --
(Fieldless) Two boreae addorsed and conjoined argent.
There is a CD for fieldless vs. fieldless, and one for changing the
number of charges.
clear of: Jean Grondin the Basque (badge, 11/89 Caid) -- Sable, a
boreas blowing bendwise from sinister base argent.
There is a CD for field vs. fieldless, and one for the orientation of
the charge.
7. Eldjarn Sveinnbildr -- Quarterly sable and argent, two
double-bitted axes in saltire counterchanged.
The Geirr Bassi docs for “Eldjárn” are as given; the docs for both
“Sweinn” and “bíldr” are also as given. However, the documentation
has accents (i.e., “Eldjárn and “bíldr”); the submission does not. Is
this a typo?
The Geirr Bassi cites given for constructed bynames do not give
specific instances of [name] and occupation. They all appear to be
[office/title] and occupation. The other cites appear to all be cases
in which the genitive form of a name is used in the byname, and,
additionally, do not appear to take the form of the submitted byname
-- they appear, instead to be [occupation] followed by genitive name
form as a separate word.
I did look at the actual Eriksson article: the documented names and
bynames are under the section “Titles”[URL:
http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/lindorm/runicbynames/
titles.htm#start]. In some cases, the given name is the nominative
form; in others, both the given name and the byname seem to be
genitive forms. If I understand the formation of
patronymics/genitives (Geirr Bassi, p. 17), a more correct form of the
name might be “Eldjárn bíldr Sweins” or (possibly) “Eldjárnar bíldr
Sweins. This is a major change; since major changes are not allowed
by the submitter, this would have to be returned.
Nice armory!
no conflicts found
8. Elena Tailleur -- Argent, a dragon segreant vert and on a chief
embattled gules a needle argent conjoined by the thread to a full yarn
quill Or.
The Reaney and Wilson docs for “Elena” are as given (p. 153). There
is also an earlier cite: Elena [sic] ostiaria, dated
to 1204.
The Reaney and Wilson docs for “Tailleur” are not quite as given (p.
440). “Tailleur” is an Old French word for “tailor”, dated to 1296.
As a name element, dated citations are: William
Taylur [sic], dated to 1180; William le
Taillur [sic], dated to 1182; and John le
talliur [sic] dated to 1202.
The charges are all very small; they should be larger, fill the space
better. It isn’t clear from the color emblazon [URL:
http://www.scawebserver.com/~aeherald/Letters/AE82/elena_color.jpg] if
the thread connecting the needle and the quill is Or, or if it's
argent; the blazon suggests it should be Or, but it’s very hard to
tell -- this may be related to the relative smallness of *all* of the
charges. The needle itself is sort of, but not really, palewise.
clear of: Tanglust wraig Brychan (12/00 Atlantia) -- Argent, a dragon
segreant vert, on a chief gules two needles crossed in saltire between
two thimbles Or.
There is a CD for adding the complex line to the chief, and one for
type and number of tertiaries.
9. Hunter’s Home, Shire of (administrative action)
Obviously, such an administrative action cannot be done at this level.
The only thing we in the Æthelmearc College can do is to check and see
if there is a conflict with anything more recent than the release date
of their old arms. I could only search up through the April 2004
LoAR; nothing more recent is online.
no conflicts found
10. Kj{o,}tvi Thorgrimsson -- Per pale sable and argent, two axes
crossed in saltire between two wolf’s heads erased respectant all
counterchanged.
possibly clear of: Valdis Raginheid (7/90 Caid) -- Per pale sable and
argent, two double-bitted axes in saltire fretted with a mascle
counterchanged.
There is a CD for changing the wolf’s heads to a mascle. There may
also be one for the type of axe (I presume that double-bitted axes are
somewhat different from the ones in the submission.
possibly clear of: Killian Stewart (9/95 Middle) -- Per pale sable
and argent, two wolves heads respectant counterchanged.
There is a CD for removal of the primary charge group (i.e., the
axes).
11. Robert Peel
The Withycombe docs are as given (pp. 254-55, sn Robert). The other
cite is also as given [URL:
http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/christian/fairnames/givennames.html#men].
I don’t have Bardsley. Reaney and Wilson (p.344, sn Peel) cites
Robert Peel [sic], dated to 1382.
Nice name, but there is a conflict:
[Sir] Robert Peel [Junior] (1788-1850); Prime Minister of England,
1834-35 and 1841-46 and founder of the Conservative Party [URL:
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/PRpeel.htm]; also responsible for
the establishment of the Metropolitan Police Force in 1829 [URL:
http://www.dialspace.dial.pipex.com/town/terrace/adw03/peel/peelhome.htm].
Another website, Cotton Times [URL: http://www.cottontimes.co.uk
/peeljnr.htm] says: “Everyone knows that the bobby on the beat is
named after Sir Robert Peel, the founder of the police force.” Sir
Robert Peel is important enough to have a Encyclopedia Britannica
listing [URL:
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=9058943&query=Sir%20Robert%20Peel&ct=].
To clear the conflict, an additional byname element, such as a place
name or occupation, could be added.
12. Roland of Foxes Glen -- Per chevron inverted sable and gules, in
chief a hunting horn reversed argent.
The Withycombe docs are as cited (p. 256).
The byname docs seem to suggest that “of Fox Glen” might be a better
construction.
The line of division seems to come down awfully far on the field.
clear of: Æthelmearc, Kingdom of (badge, 3/02 Æthelmearc) --
(Fieldless) A hunting horn argent. [for Order of the White Horn]
There is a CD for field vs. fieldless, and one for changing the
orientation of the charge.
possibly clear of: Heralds’ Seals: Triton Herald (8/79 East) --
(Tinctureless) A triton-shell trumpet bell in chief.
There is a CD for field vs. fieldless; I’m guessing that there is a CD
for orientation, at least (I have no idea what a triton shell looks
like).
probably clear of: Gyronny gules and vert, a spiral hunting horn
reversed argent.
There is a CD for changing the field; there is probably one for the
type of horn.
clear of: Magnus Birchleg (8/85 West) -- Gules, a drinking horn
bendwise sinister argent.
clear of: Ófeigr Valgardsson (8/95 Middle) -- Per fess purpure and
vert, a drinking horn palewise argent.
In each of these, there is a CD for changing half the field, and one
for changing the orientation of the charge.
13. Tywyll Coetir, Shire of -- Argent, a tree blasted and eradicated
sable within a laurel wreath vert, on a chief sable three mullets
argent.
According to my Welsh Dictionary (which is admittedly small) “tywyll”
(p. 135) is an adjective meaning “dark, obscure, blind, sad”.
“Coetir” is not listed; “coeden” (p. 22) is a feminine noun meaning
“tree”, with the plural being “coed”. There is also the feminine noun
“coedwig” meaning “forest, wood” (the plural is, if I understand it
correctly, might be either “coedwoedd”, “coedwigoedd” or “coedoedd”.
I don’t know if the grammar is correct. Sometimes the adjective comes
after the noun, but I don’t know in what cases it does.
A better choice might be “Coed-duon” (on the same page) which
translates to “Blackwood”.
The chief should come down farther on the field, even if it makes the
other charges smaller.
I do not believe that this style of laurel wreath is allowed. This
was reiterated fairly recently in the April 2004 LoAR [URL:
http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2004/04/
04-04lar.html] in the return of the armory for the College of Saint
Basil the Great in Lochac:
Also, precedent is clear that this depiction of a laurel wreath
must be returned for redrawing:
[a tower sable ... environed in base with a laurel wreath vert] The
device must be returned for lack of a name to which to register it.
The armory had an
additional problem which would not allow it to be accepted. Laurel
wreaths
should not be drawn with another charge between the tips of the
wreath,
except possibly when the charge between the tips is very thin. [Apr
2002, Ret-
Atenveldt, Hawk's Rest, Shire of]
...a laurel wreath should have a round shape, rather than a 'U' or
'V' shape,
and they should be completely closed, or almost completely closed,
at the
top. Laurel wreaths in the shape submitted here have been
considered
sufficient reason for return in the past. [Dec 2001,
Ret-Ealdormere, Brant
County, Canton of]
Laurel wreaths should be drawn in a basically circular or
elliptical shape, and either completely closed or with no room
between the tips as to allow placing
another charge between them. While some artistic latitude has
sometimes been
given on the latter point, U- and especially V-shaped wreaths are
not allowed.
probably clear of: Yarnvid, College of (6/95 Atlantia) -- Argent, a
harp reversed sable within a laurel wreath vert, on a chief sable
three goblets argent.
There should be X.2 [X.1?] between a tree and a harp; there is,
however, only change of type of tertiary.
probably clear of: Wynterset, Stronghold of (Æthelmearc, 1/04)
Argent, a winged stag’s head affronty erased at the shoulder wings
displayed azure within a laurel wreath vert and on a chief sable three
mullets of eight points argent.
There should be X.2 [X.1?] between a tree and a harp; however, I’m not
sure you get much, if anything for the tertiaries.
clear of: Meghan of Laurel Wood (12/89 West) -- Argent, a weeping
willow tree eradicated proper, on a chief sable, three Celtic crosses
argent.
There is a CD for changing the tincture of the tree, if not for
changing the type of tree; there is also a CD for adding the laurel
wreath.
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