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Letter of Intent #89
Myfanwy ferch Rhiannon



Eve of All Hallows
31 October, AS XL

Greetings from Myfanwy!
Herein pray find commentary on Æ #89. It was conflict checked in the O&A, and also in the LoARs up through July 2005 (the most recent posted on the Laurel website.
I remain your servant and the Society’s.

Lady Myfanwy ferch Rhiannon
mka Ruth Morrisson
myfanwy@nauticom.net

1. Catherine Sheffield (resub) -- Per chevron argent and gules, two sheafs [sic] of wheat and a cross bottony counterchanged.
The line of division is a bit too shallow, but may be registrable with an artist’s note. The garbs are not particularly well drawn. The cross fills the space, but is extremely large in relation to the garbs -- shouldn’t they all be co-primaries? Note that if the line of division were drawn with a more acute angle, the cross would necessarily have to be a bit smaller.
Reblazon: Per chevron argent and gules, two garbs and a cross bottony counterchanged.
no conflicts found

2. Marija Kotok -- Azure, a lion-dragon passant Or, an open book argent.
The docs for the given name are as cited. Note, however, that the Walraven cite is not for a Ukrainian name, and the Wickenden cite is not for the submitted spelling. Additionally, the online version of Wickenden is not the most updated version, although when I checked my copy (3rd edition), I was not able to find a closer spelling in this case [p. 202, sn Mariia].
The online docs for the byname are as given; see also Wickenden [p. 164, sn Kot].
There does not seem to be any previous rulings about Russian/Ukrainian names combined with Croatian names (in fact, there doesn’t seem to be anything regarding Croatian names at all [URL: http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/weirdness_table.html]. The closest (and it isn’t very close) is that Russian combined with Romanian is a weirdness (i.e., one step from period practice). This name should be sent on up to Laurel, with a request for further research from the College of Arms, since there’s very little we can do at the Kingdom level.
According to a precedent ruling during François’ first term as Laurel, there is a CD between open and closed books:
[Sable, three open books Or ] [sic] This submission raised the question of
whether we should give difference between open and closed books. Both are
found in period armory: the open book in the arms of Oxford in 1585 and the
closed book in the arms of Cambridge in 1572. There are few books found in
period heraldry, so it is not easy to generalize about period distinctions between
open and closed books, although there is a fair amount of evidence showing that
Oxford and Cambridge consistently use their books in the open and closed
forms respectively in the 17th C and beyond.

Without evidence of period practice, we must rely on visual distinction, and
open and closed books are visually distinct. This is therefore clear of conflict with
... Sable, a closed book palewise Or , [sic] with one CD for changing the number of
books and another for open versus closed books. It is similarly clear of conflict
with ... Vert, three closed books palewise, spines to sinister Or , [sic] with one CD for
changing the field and another for open versus closed books. [ Emma in
draumspaka
[sic] , 03/02 , A-An Tir
Is there any evidence for “illustrated” books as charges? Otherwise, this may need to be returned for a redraw, or else the “illustrations” be blazoned as tertiary charges. Parker [p. 70, sn Book] shows an open book in the arms of Oxford University; in this case, there is text written on the pages, but the words are specifically blazoned. Von Volborth [p. 189, fig. 1067], shows the arms of the booksellers of Leipzig, Saxony, which includes an owl standing upon an open book; there seems to be some artistic indication of text, but this must be recognized as a modern depiction of a post-period (18th century) example. There is a François Precedent that may be somewhat related, but appears to relate more to text:
[Azure, an open book and in base a bee argent marked sable ] [sic] This does not
conflict with Yale University (important non-SCA armory), Azure, an open book
argent charged with Hebrew letters sable
[sic]. There is one CD for adding the
secondary bee, and another CD for removing the tertiary letters from the book.
As seen on p. 241 of Neubecker's Heraldry- Sources, Symbols and Meanings , [sic]
the Hebrew letters on the books in the arms of Yale University are few and
large, and function as tertiary charges. In general, open books may be drawn
with numerous small writing marks as artistic license, the writing so small that it
could not be read from any distance, but such writing would not be blazoned.
[ Branwen filia Iohannis de Monmouth [sic] , 04/02 , A-East]
I still haven’t been able to track down my PIC-DIC. Brooke-Little [p. 132] describes a a “lion-dragon” as: “A monster having the foreparts of a lion and the hind-parts of a dragon.” This seems to imply that it should have four legs, but there is no depiction. Von Volborth [p. 46, fig. 364] shows what appears to be “a lion-dragon erect”, which is similar to the submitted emblazon in having only two legs (on the lion’s half). [Note: the header has an asterisk after the word, but I have so far been unable to determine the reason why.] Woodward [pp. 290-93} seems to suggest that in Continental heraldry, the “Dragon” is equivalent to the “Wyvern” in English heraldry. He doesn’t seem to have a reference to a “lion-dragon”, but does [p. 293] describe a “dragon monstreux”: “A dragon with a human face is known in French blazon as a dragon monstreux [sic].”
As to the posture,Parker [p. 524, sn Sea-Horse] depicts the arms of Tucker (in which the posture of the sea-horses are unblazoned) and the arms of Glynn, in which the identical posture is blazoned “naiant” [in these instances, both legs are stretched out, similarly to “couchant” or to the front half of something “courant”]. Since this is not a sea-creature, I’m unsure whether “passant” (normally used for four-legged creatures) is still the more appropriate term, lacking a better one.
Is there any heraldic difference between a lion-dragon and a sea-lion? I found lion-dragon as charges under both “Monster-Sea-Lion” and “Monster-Other”.
Possible reblazon: Azure, in pale a lion-dragon passant Or and an open book argent.
probably clear of: Duinnsech nic Aodha (11/91 East) -- Azure, an open book argent bound sable and in chief a compass star argent.
There is at least one CD for for changing the compass star to the lion-dragon, and one for adding the “illustrations” to the book.
possibly not clear of: Yale University (12/94 Laurel) -- Azure, an open book argent charged with Hebrew letters sable. [important non-SCA arms]
There is a CD for adding the co-primary, but may not be one for the tertiary charges.
clear of: Islyle le Gannoker de Gavain (badge, 2/82 Caid) -- Azure, an open book argent, overall an estoc inverted Or. [for House Estoc]
There is at least one CD for changing the type of co-primary, and one for the arrangement/orientation of the charges. If I understand the second François Precedent correctly, there is also a CD for adding the tertiary charges to the book.
probably clear of: Timoteo Alvaraes (1/98 Lochac) -- Azure in pale two sea lions naiant Or.
There is a CD for changing the type of one of the charges, and one for changing its tincture.

3. Marija Kotok (badge) -- (Fieldless) a [sic] catamount couchant argent.
clear of: Rowan the Shiftless (badge, 10/01 Atlantia) -- (Fieldless) A lion dormant argent within and conjoined to a wingless dragon involved head to chief Or.
There is a CD for fieldless vs. fieldless, and one for adding the the dragon.
possible visual conflict: Kareina Talvi Tytar (7/86 West) -- Azure, vetû, a long-haired domestic cat dormant argent.
possible visual conflict: Ellen of Caer Seiont -- (7/83 An Tir) -- Pean, a domestic cat dormant guardant argent.
In both of these, there is a CD for field vs. fieldless, but possibly not for the posture of the cat; according to a François Precedent, the head position between couchant and dormant should be very distinct:
[Ermine, a lion dormant... ] [sic] ... the posture of the lion blurs the distinction
between couchant and dormant. The head should clearly be raised and alert (as
in couchant) or should rest on the forepaws and sleep (as in dormant). [ Rurik
Levushka Ul'ianov
[sic] ,12/01 , R-Atenveldt ]
possibly not clear of: James Winter of White Forest (4/89 Calontir) -- Per fess sable and ermine, in chief a lion dormant argent.
There is a CD for field vs. fieldless; like the previous two calls, there may or may not be a CD between couchant and dormant. In addition, the position/arrangement of the lion on the field is a forced one, due to the tinctures involved.
possibly clear of: Trude Lacklandia (1/80 Atenveldt) -- Sable, a domestic cat couchant guardant chased argent.
There is a CD for field vs. fieldless. I found the term “chased” in Parker [p. 572. sn Thunderbolt]:
a bearing derived from the classic mytho- [sic] logy, in which the emblem is
ascribed to Jupiter. In one instance it is only outlined or chased [sic] on the
escutcheons.
If the emblazon for Trude’s arms follows this definition, then the charge should be a white outline of a cat on a black field, and there should be a second CD for change of tincture. Not having access to the old files, however, I can only presume that this is in fact the case, and there will have to be a visual examination made by Wreath (or at least by someone with access to the files or the CD-Roms of the scanned files).

4. Mathias Kotok -- Azure, on a plate embattled argent, a cross pointed between four Passion nails, head to center, gules.
The docs for the given name are as cited; however, this is a German name, not a Ukrainian one. I was unable to find anything that translates to Mathias in Wickenden; the closest I could find was <Matfei>, the Russian form of <Matthew> [p. 205, sn Matfei].
The online docs for the byname are as given; see also Wickenden [p. 164, sn Kot].
Russian name elements combined with German ones are one step from period practice [URL: http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/weirdness_table.html]; this is predicated on presuming that there’s not much difference between Russian and Ukrainian (which admittedly may be a false presumption on my part.
This is not a “plate embattled”. This appears (at least in the black and white mini) as a really skinny annulet embattled on the inner edge (and badly at that -- the embattlements should be fewer and much, much larger). On the online color emblazon [URL: http://www.aeheralds.net/Letters/AE89/iloi-CLR.html], it appears to be a plate charged with the cross and passion nails and a line of embattling (almost as if it were a plain plate charged with an embattled plate, which would be returnable for both metal on metal and for having four layers on the field).
According to Brooke-Little [p. 76], this is indeed a cross pointed (although somewhat badly drawn. The cross could also be blazoned as a “cross urdée” [c.f. Parker, pp. 178-79, § 35, sn Cross].
possibly clear of: Heralds’ Seals: Silver Quill Pursuivant (1/76 ??) -- (Tinctureless) A quill bendwise sinister within a roundel.
There may be a CD for tinctured vs. tinctureless; there is probably one for type and number of tertiaries.
clear of: Frances vom Grünwald (6/00 Ansteorra) -- Azure, on a plate a heart gules, a bordure embattled argent.
clear of: Naevehjem, Barony of (12/92 Caid) -- Azure, on a plate within an annulet Or, an ermine spot gules.
In each case there is at least one CD for adding the secondary and one for type and number of tertiaries on the plate.

5. Morgen of Rye
Is this a typo, or is the submitter’s name really “Morgen”? That seems to be a very unusual spelling, but if that’s what the driver’s license says, that’s what it says. Morgan and Morgan [p. 168, sn Morgan] gives the post-period spelling variants <Morgon> and <Morgin>. Reaney and Wilson [p. 314, sn Morgan] cites Murgund [sic], dated 1204-11. Black [p. 611, sn Morgan] says:
The Pictish form of the name is Morgunn [sic], with gen. Morcunn [sic] and
Morcunt [sic]. The name exists also in Old British, Old Breton, and Cornish as
Morcant [sic], Welsh Morgan [sic], and the Morken [sic] of Jocelin’s Life of Kentigern
[sic] (c. xxi) is a form of it.

6. Petr Kotok
There’s an oops in the docs for the given name -- the link gets you to the docs for the byname instead! [The actual URL is http://www.sca.org/heraldry/paul/pa.html]. See also Wickenden [pp. 265-66, sn Petr].
The online docs for the byname are as given; see also Wickenden [p. 164, sn Kot].

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